The Long Goodbye
Los Angeles, California | Film Short
Drama, Family
Relationships with our Grandparents are unique - full of love, but far too often: unexplored. We settle into the same holiday-visit routine, listen to the same stories, and ultimately let the word ‘grandparent’ dictate our relationship. Let's redefine that relationship on your terms.
The Long Goodbye
Los Angeles, California | Film Short
Drama, Family
2 Campaigns | California, United States
Green Light
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Relationships with our Grandparents are unique - full of love, but far too often: unexplored. We settle into the same holiday-visit routine, listen to the same stories, and ultimately let the word ‘grandparent’ dictate our relationship. Let's redefine that relationship on your terms.
- The Story
- Wishlist
- Updates
- The Team
- Community
Mission Statement
The Story
"Time knocks on our door when we’re children, and we’re too busy playing to answer. It knocks again when we’re young adults, and we’re too busy working to answer. But as the years pass, the knocks grow louder and louder, and we’re given a choice:
Ignore Time, or embrace it.
It is my dream that those who watch this film will be inspired to reach out to a loved one, even if it’s one simple phone call to say hello. That they might look at visiting Grandma as an opportunity to know her as a person, not an obligation to fulfill.
That when the time comes to say goodbye, you won’t feel like you’ve missed your chance."
-Karl, Writer of "The Long Goodbye"
Family First, Last, and Always
When I was younger I used to have epic water-gun fights in my Grandparent's backyard, and complain about going to church. We’d play Monopoly on the floor for hours, where my demands for a rematch would reveal a lack of knowledge on the finer points of stiff backs and sore knees.
A few years later golf became our thing, despite my impatience and intense hatred of sand traps. Maybe it was the way they were always impressed with my shots, or how they smiled as they let me drive the golf cart (a big deal) — but I always looked forward to 18 holes.
So when I noticed my grandparents starting to slow down two years ago, that wonderfully indefinite period of 'they'll always be there' slowly caved to reality.
And part of that reality, was that most of my adult life interacting with them had revolved around a handful of days each year that were more focused on the event than getting to know the people themselves.
Most people know this as, 'The Holidays'.
And now that I wanted more than that, time was not on my side.
Seeing Your Grandparents as People
The first part of my answer, was to film an interview with each of my grandparents (and my wife's) immediately. I wanted to get to know them as people who had lived full lives with unique perspectives and experiences. I wanted to ask them personal and potentially awkward questions.
Questions like:
- “What was a major turning point for you in your life?”
- “What makes for a successful marriage?”
- "What is it like to grow old together?"
It was the last one that really got me...
I had no idea this question mattered so deeply to me. Maybe it was the implication that they were actually old and on their way out. Or that growing old together with my wife is my deepest dream in life. But after seeing them struggling together, supporting each other, it became very, very real.
My Grandpa passed away the following year.
Passing It On
The hours-long interview became a tremendous source of comfort for me, and I realized how lucky I was to have even the small chance to get to know my grandparents. Like, really know them.
And I wanted to pass that message along to others who still have the chance. To encourge people to be present with their loved ones, whether it's grandparents, parents or siblings - because life is unpredictable at best.
And as a filmmaker, this is where my voice is clearest.
The Film Itself
Overview: Troubled by his Grandfather’s sudden surgery, Matt makes a last minute visit and accidentally exposes a truth no one is prepared to face.
Over the past 2 years, The Long Goodbye evolved as a cautionary tale to answer another question: how do you deepen a relationship that has stayed the same for decades?
Well...change means uncertainty. Breaking tradition. Awkwardness.
And as each of the characters progresses through the story, we get insight into what it's like to be on both sides of that equation - because relationships are always, always a two way street.
A Shared Mission
The Long Goodbye is meant to help connect families and generations in an age where loneliness and misunderstanding are at an all-time high.
And I want The Long Goodbye to enrich your life.
To inspire an extra moment in your day where you look beyond where your relationships are, and reach for where you want them to be.
To give perspective on arguments and disagreements, and become a conversational tool to ask deep questions with loved ones. And most of all, I want to the film to be a reminder:
Waiting to connect is just rolling the dice
on the most valuable thing life has to offer
So as part of the campaign, we've decided to go a slightly different direction with our social accounts. Instead of posting about the project itself, we're creating content that provides you opportunities to connect and reflect. To share with family. To slowly push back on whatever boundaries you want to overcome.
GETTING INVOLVED
- Our Instagram account features user-submitted stories of their grandparents, and things people have learned from them (click here if you want to submit!)
- Our Blogs feature deeply personal stories about family to inspire connection.
- Our FaceBook page shares cool ways people have closed the generational gap.
- Our Email updates will share a weekly roundup of our favorite IG stories, plus live Los Angeles-based events.
By supporting this film, I hope it will encourage you to see your grandparents or parents as human beings just a little bit more. To find a few breadcrumbs to drop, and try to grow that relationship while there’s still time.
If this resonates with you, we hope you'll join us on this journey.
Wishlist
Use the WishList to Pledge cash and Loan items - or - Make a pledge by selecting an Incentive directly.
3-day Camera Rental
Costs $1,200
Help our incredible cinematographer get a STEAL of a deal to renting this superb camera kit.
Gaffer - 3 Days
Costs $600
Without the right crew, nothing happens - period.
Grip - 3 Days
Costs $600
Without the right crew, nothing happens - period.
Hair and Makeup - 3 Days
Costs $600
Not only helping our actors look their best, but adding in some special effects as well.
Production Assistant - 5 Days
Costs $500
PA's help the world go round - or at least the good ones do!
Lighting Rentals - 3 Days
Costs $1,500
What good's a film if you can't see it - or at least we're not THAT experimental.
Grip Equipment Rental - 3 Days
Costs $1,500
Shaping light is incredibly important to the look and feel of a picture, and we're doing it right.
Travel & Lodging - 3 Days
Costs $1,600
Caring for our 15+ cast + crew as we film on-location in Arizona.
Food
Costs $1,100
Food - it's kind of required, or people get mad at you.
The Perfect Location
Costs $1,000
Finding the perfect location does EVERYTHING for a short film's credibility. Seriously important.
Props + Set Design
Costs $800
Adding the perfect little touches go a LONG way - like this clock.
Actors - 3 Days
Costs $1,125
Like minimum wage, this is the union minimum to pay 3 amazing actors for 3 days of work.
Cash Pledge
Costs $0
About This Team

Karl Stelter | Writer, Director
In 2010 I took a calculated risk - I left my family’s business to move to Los Angeles, spent half my life savings on camera equipment, and budgeted the other half for about 2 years of living off eggs and oatmeal (also learning my budgeting skills needed work). But I didn’t move to Los Angeles just to make films, or give up a great job with my Dad to pursue a passion. I moved because I wanted to be moved — and I wanted to share that with other people.
In those 8 years I taught myself film from scratch, and honed my voice as a writer and director creating films that challenge how we view the world around us, and what's important.
But I was only able to make that jump because I had a family that would support me no matter how hard I might fall - and for that, I am forever grateful. Family is everything.
If you want the long story - you can find it here.

Caitlin Crommett | Producer



Scott Edwards has been working as an editor in Toronto, Ontario for more almost a decade. Whether he is working on commercial, short-film, documentary or music videos he always brings his unique style of storytelling to the project. His professional journey began when he co-founded a devised theatre company ZUKE that challenged performance-audience relationships while creating large scale theatrical productions. This was where he discovered and nurtured his ability in media design and video editing and has led him to his current position at one of the leading commercial post houses in Toronto, Relish Editing. He has always relied heavily on the art of collaboration and is grateful to be a part of this dream-team of artists.
The Long Goodbye is an exciting project to join because while the themes are universal they will resonate differently for each individual viewer. It will serve as a reminder that these often unexplored generational gaps offer deep insight to your own connection with family, events and understanding of self.

Christy Carew | Composer
Our brilliant composer, we found her work through a different Seed&Spark campaign she did the trailer music for, and was blown away not just by how good it was (crazy good), but how perfectly it fit. Oh and she also regularly does work for all the alphabet TV companies (ABC, NBC, CBS...you name it). We cannot wait to let her work her magic!

Grandma Stelter | Social Chair
At 96, she signed herself up to be part of our Seed&Spark campaign - becoming one of the coolest Grandma's on the site. A bit from her:
Grandma to my wonderful grandson Karl Stelter. I'm 96, and I enjoy our conversations, and playing cards together. I think family is very important in life.
I say one of, because there's another Grandma who signed up via iPhone at 85.
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Grandma Donatt | Social Chair
My other amazing Grandma, we grew up playing constantly - whether it was out in the sand by their lake, or on the floor playing Monopoly (where she kicked my butt and made me cry) - I'm so thankful to have her in my life! A small bit from her:
I can remember my grandparents, but I never really had the chance to talk to them like that. It's a good adventure and experience.
I am Karl's Grandmother. I love him to heaven and back again 7 trillion times.
Incentives
- The Story
- Wishlist
- Updates
- The Team
- Community
Mission Statement
The Story
"Time knocks on our door when we’re children, and we’re too busy playing to answer. It knocks again when we’re young adults, and we’re too busy working to answer. But as the years pass, the knocks grow louder and louder, and we’re given a choice:
Ignore Time, or embrace it.
It is my dream that those who watch this film will be inspired to reach out to a loved one, even if it’s one simple phone call to say hello. That they might look at visiting Grandma as an opportunity to know her as a person, not an obligation to fulfill.
That when the time comes to say goodbye, you won’t feel like you’ve missed your chance."
-Karl, Writer of "The Long Goodbye"
Family First, Last, and Always
When I was younger I used to have epic water-gun fights in my Grandparent's backyard, and complain about going to church. We’d play Monopoly on the floor for hours, where my demands for a rematch would reveal a lack of knowledge on the finer points of stiff backs and sore knees.
A few years later golf became our thing, despite my impatience and intense hatred of sand traps. Maybe it was the way they were always impressed with my shots, or how they smiled as they let me drive the golf cart (a big deal) — but I always looked forward to 18 holes.
So when I noticed my grandparents starting to slow down two years ago, that wonderfully indefinite period of 'they'll always be there' slowly caved to reality.
And part of that reality, was that most of my adult life interacting with them had revolved around a handful of days each year that were more focused on the event than getting to know the people themselves.
Most people know this as, 'The Holidays'.
And now that I wanted more than that, time was not on my side.
Seeing Your Grandparents as People
The first part of my answer, was to film an interview with each of my grandparents (and my wife's) immediately. I wanted to get to know them as people who had lived full lives with unique perspectives and experiences. I wanted to ask them personal and potentially awkward questions.
Questions like:
- “What was a major turning point for you in your life?”
- “What makes for a successful marriage?”
- "What is it like to grow old together?"
It was the last one that really got me...
I had no idea this question mattered so deeply to me. Maybe it was the implication that they were actually old and on their way out. Or that growing old together with my wife is my deepest dream in life. But after seeing them struggling together, supporting each other, it became very, very real.
My Grandpa passed away the following year.
Passing It On
The hours-long interview became a tremendous source of comfort for me, and I realized how lucky I was to have even the small chance to get to know my grandparents. Like, really know them.
And I wanted to pass that message along to others who still have the chance. To encourge people to be present with their loved ones, whether it's grandparents, parents or siblings - because life is unpredictable at best.
And as a filmmaker, this is where my voice is clearest.
The Film Itself
Overview: Troubled by his Grandfather’s sudden surgery, Matt makes a last minute visit and accidentally exposes a truth no one is prepared to face.
Over the past 2 years, The Long Goodbye evolved as a cautionary tale to answer another question: how do you deepen a relationship that has stayed the same for decades?
Well...change means uncertainty. Breaking tradition. Awkwardness.
And as each of the characters progresses through the story, we get insight into what it's like to be on both sides of that equation - because relationships are always, always a two way street.
A Shared Mission
The Long Goodbye is meant to help connect families and generations in an age where loneliness and misunderstanding are at an all-time high.
And I want The Long Goodbye to enrich your life.
To inspire an extra moment in your day where you look beyond where your relationships are, and reach for where you want them to be.
To give perspective on arguments and disagreements, and become a conversational tool to ask deep questions with loved ones. And most of all, I want to the film to be a reminder:
Waiting to connect is just rolling the dice
on the most valuable thing life has to offer
So as part of the campaign, we've decided to go a slightly different direction with our social accounts. Instead of posting about the project itself, we're creating content that provides you opportunities to connect and reflect. To share with family. To slowly push back on whatever boundaries you want to overcome.
GETTING INVOLVED
- Our Instagram account features user-submitted stories of their grandparents, and things people have learned from them (click here if you want to submit!)
- Our Blogs feature deeply personal stories about family to inspire connection.
- Our FaceBook page shares cool ways people have closed the generational gap.
- Our Email updates will share a weekly roundup of our favorite IG stories, plus live Los Angeles-based events.
By supporting this film, I hope it will encourage you to see your grandparents or parents as human beings just a little bit more. To find a few breadcrumbs to drop, and try to grow that relationship while there’s still time.
If this resonates with you, we hope you'll join us on this journey.
Wishlist
Use the WishList to Pledge cash and Loan items - or - Make a pledge by selecting an Incentive directly.
3-day Camera Rental
Costs $1,200
Help our incredible cinematographer get a STEAL of a deal to renting this superb camera kit.
Gaffer - 3 Days
Costs $600
Without the right crew, nothing happens - period.
Grip - 3 Days
Costs $600
Without the right crew, nothing happens - period.
Hair and Makeup - 3 Days
Costs $600
Not only helping our actors look their best, but adding in some special effects as well.
Production Assistant - 5 Days
Costs $500
PA's help the world go round - or at least the good ones do!
Lighting Rentals - 3 Days
Costs $1,500
What good's a film if you can't see it - or at least we're not THAT experimental.
Grip Equipment Rental - 3 Days
Costs $1,500
Shaping light is incredibly important to the look and feel of a picture, and we're doing it right.
Travel & Lodging - 3 Days
Costs $1,600
Caring for our 15+ cast + crew as we film on-location in Arizona.
Food
Costs $1,100
Food - it's kind of required, or people get mad at you.
The Perfect Location
Costs $1,000
Finding the perfect location does EVERYTHING for a short film's credibility. Seriously important.
Props + Set Design
Costs $800
Adding the perfect little touches go a LONG way - like this clock.
Actors - 3 Days
Costs $1,125
Like minimum wage, this is the union minimum to pay 3 amazing actors for 3 days of work.
Cash Pledge
Costs $0
About This Team

Karl Stelter | Writer, Director
In 2010 I took a calculated risk - I left my family’s business to move to Los Angeles, spent half my life savings on camera equipment, and budgeted the other half for about 2 years of living off eggs and oatmeal (also learning my budgeting skills needed work). But I didn’t move to Los Angeles just to make films, or give up a great job with my Dad to pursue a passion. I moved because I wanted to be moved — and I wanted to share that with other people.
In those 8 years I taught myself film from scratch, and honed my voice as a writer and director creating films that challenge how we view the world around us, and what's important.
But I was only able to make that jump because I had a family that would support me no matter how hard I might fall - and for that, I am forever grateful. Family is everything.
If you want the long story - you can find it here.

Caitlin Crommett | Producer



Scott Edwards has been working as an editor in Toronto, Ontario for more almost a decade. Whether he is working on commercial, short-film, documentary or music videos he always brings his unique style of storytelling to the project. His professional journey began when he co-founded a devised theatre company ZUKE that challenged performance-audience relationships while creating large scale theatrical productions. This was where he discovered and nurtured his ability in media design and video editing and has led him to his current position at one of the leading commercial post houses in Toronto, Relish Editing. He has always relied heavily on the art of collaboration and is grateful to be a part of this dream-team of artists.
The Long Goodbye is an exciting project to join because while the themes are universal they will resonate differently for each individual viewer. It will serve as a reminder that these often unexplored generational gaps offer deep insight to your own connection with family, events and understanding of self.

Christy Carew | Composer
Our brilliant composer, we found her work through a different Seed&Spark campaign she did the trailer music for, and was blown away not just by how good it was (crazy good), but how perfectly it fit. Oh and she also regularly does work for all the alphabet TV companies (ABC, NBC, CBS...you name it). We cannot wait to let her work her magic!

Grandma Stelter | Social Chair
At 96, she signed herself up to be part of our Seed&Spark campaign - becoming one of the coolest Grandma's on the site. A bit from her:
Grandma to my wonderful grandson Karl Stelter. I'm 96, and I enjoy our conversations, and playing cards together. I think family is very important in life.
I say one of, because there's another Grandma who signed up via iPhone at 85.
-sq.jpg)
Grandma Donatt | Social Chair
My other amazing Grandma, we grew up playing constantly - whether it was out in the sand by their lake, or on the floor playing Monopoly (where she kicked my butt and made me cry) - I'm so thankful to have her in my life! A small bit from her:
I can remember my grandparents, but I never really had the chance to talk to them like that. It's a good adventure and experience.
I am Karl's Grandmother. I love him to heaven and back again 7 trillion times.